How Canadians Can Use Cheaper US Xbox Live Points

During my visit to FRYS Electronics, while shopping down south last week, I discovered how much cheaper Xbox Live subscription and points cards were. For example, the Xbox Live 12+1 month subscription was $49.99 US vs $59.99 CAD. The 1600 point card I bought doesn’t exist in Canada, but to put it into perspective, the 1600 point card only cost me $19.99 US while the Canadian 1000 point card cost $14.99 while the 2000 point card costs $29.99 here. So in other words, we really get shafted North of the border. If you go down further to Oregon, you pay no tax at all for these cards, further lowering the price.

How Canadians Can Use Cheaper US Xbox Live Points

Eager to take advantage of my score, I promptly ripped open the finger ripping blister packaging and attempted to load them up. Unfortunately, I ran into some snags. Although the Xbox Live 12+1 month Subscription card activated and credited itself properly to my account, the results with the 1600 point card weren’t so easy peasy. When I went to activate the card on my Xbox 360, it would keep giving me an error, saying that the code could not be redeemed and to try again. Now I know the cards are case sensitive so I checked and double checked and it still wouldn’t activate. I even tried logging on to Xbox Live from a regular PC and doing it online. Without much success, I placed a call to the Xbox Help Line to figure things out.

I Expected To Be Connected to India

I’ve never called the Xbox Live Hotline before so I totally expected to be connected to someone in a certain Asian Country that is not Hong Kong or Taipei. Well, my fears were alleviated when I got connected to someone that seemed to speak perfect English, although with a bit of a…can’t put my finger on it…accent. Nonetheless, our two way communication was one hundred percent flawless and we proceeded to talk about the situation with my points card. Unfortunately, I got disconnected and had to call back.

On the second call, I got through to a really nice lady that told me that although the Xbox Live Subscription cards worked fine for Canadian Xbox Live accounts (like I had discovered), the points cards are not coded to work on Canadian accounts as they are regionalized. I guess this is how they try to discourage folks from picking up cheaper cards across the border. However, it’s kind of weird that the subscription cards work, being that it’s all Xbox Live to begin with. I had never heard of this regionalization before (I mean, points are points right?), since I really don’t buy the points cards often. I totally thought I was going to be out of luck till I got a hot tip that would make this all work out.

After making friends with the rep on the other end, she told me about a way to use my US points cards, even though I’m in Canada. There were actually two ways to get my points to work, but this method would prove to be much easier to administer since the alternative was to fax a copy of the receipt (who keeps receipts coming across the border anyway?) along with both sides of the card to them so they could do a manual activation. She told me the fax method was a pain in the ass and that the secondary method was easier for both them and me. It would also take less time as a manual activation (if you’ve got the receipt) takes about 5 - 10 business days.

How Do I Use My US Xbox Live Points?

In order to use the up to 20% cheaper (based on current US exchange) US Points Cards, you have to create a new account on your Xbox 360, but set it to the US. Once this is done, and you give it your favourite area code, like, I dunno, 90210, then Melrose Place, Beverly Hills, California, the system will automatically setup an Xbox Live Silver Subscription for you for that brand new US account. All you have to do after that is just punch in the card, and your cheaper points will activate on that account. Simple huh? Well, this doesn’t come without a couple downsides.

What’s The Downside?

It’s not really a huge downside, but it is more of a bummer than anything else. You see, although you are able to activate the points and use them to buy themes and content packs for the games you own, the kicker is that you will also see all the great stuff the US gets on Xbox Live, whenever you logon to this account. The downside is that no matter how many points you have stocked up, you can’t use them to rent movies, buy TV episode downloads, or “Rock The American Vote” in a Red vs. Blue battle. You physically have to be in the US to access that content, though I’m sure that a proxy could be setup to allow this access like how I normally access episodes of US TV Shows when they are offered on the network websites. This is probably against the Xbox Live terms of service so proceed at your own risk if you want to do the proxy thing with your XBL account.

What About The Content? Will My CDN Account Be Able to Access It?

The simple answer is yes. Since the content is downloaded to your console, it is playable by anyone logged into that console. You’ll be able to play all the tracks you downloaded from your US Xbox Live account with your cheaper points, and then have full access to them when you log back in with your Canadian account. I did dig deeper asking about what would happen to the content if my Xbox 360 were to get a RROD (Red Ring of Death) and apparently, they have a master switch they can flip to give access to that content back to you, sort of like what iTunes did for Wil Wheaton (aka Wesley Crusher) when he lost his whole music collection during one of the iTunes Updates.

So while the US Economy is in ruins, and the Canuck Loonie is still flying high, go ahead and stock up on a few of these and top up that pseudo US account of yours. Potentially, if you can get a US proxy to work with your Xbox 360, you can also have access to things like full seasons of TV Shows and other exclusively US content, though I doubt that you’ll be able to swing the vote. I wouldn’t even try because you know Big Brother is watching that one.


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6 Comments

Comment by Danny Dang
2008-09-05 16:59:42

I was actually in the market for another card. Thanks for the tip!

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Comment by Ed Lau
2008-09-05 22:21:36

Eh…if I happen to be down there maybe but it isn’t THAT much cheaper.

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Comment by Stephen
2008-09-05 23:33:45

We pay 12% tax because our gov’t treats this like a product, not a service. We also start with a 20% handicap in retail pricing, assuming par…or close to it. In Washington, it’s only 8.5% tax. In Oregon, it is ZERO tax. That’s up to 32% less to start with, not to mention, some retailers may sell for less.

But then again, you did pay way too much for those weird Nikes in Taiwan, that I found at the outlet when I was down there for $29.99 (marked for an additional 30% off that). If that’s bawlin’, you can have all the…umm…bawls… What’d you pay for those again? I guess they weren’t THAT much cheaper :lol:

Is it worth it to drive over and get them every time you run out? Maybe not. But is it worth it to snag a bunch while you’re down there anyway? Absolutely. The best way would probably be to setup your account based in Oregon, then use a US Credit Card to load your points online. Then that way, you don’t pay any sales tax, and you don’t have to go down there at all.

To get a better deal in Canada, they would need to fall off the back of a truck. But you knew that already didn’t you Ed ;)
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Comment by Mor10
2008-09-06 10:51:34

This by the way is the same technique used by Canadians to gain access to the Zune Marketplace. As you may well know, the Zune Marketplace is restricted to US users only even though the actual device is for sale in Canada.

The reason why the points you buy in the US only work on US accounts is simple enough: You can buy content like video, TV shows and music with them. And Microsoft have specific licenses with the distributors for each country. As far as I know you have access to the XBOX Live Canadian Marketplace where you can actually buy videos that are licensed for Canada but you can’t buy these videos if your XBOX is in the States. In a weird way it all makes sense.

That said, the monster price difference doesn’t make sense at all. They claim the difference in electronics pricing lies in the transport, border taxes etc, but that has been firmly disproven with the BlackBerry Bold which although it is a Canadian product retails for a full $100 less in the US. Now THAT’s a story you should be covering my friend.

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Comment by Stephen
2008-09-06 13:44:30

Well, it is well known that it costs at least a hundred bucks for the French Translation of the manual :lol:

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Comment by ken
2008-09-06 11:25:59

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

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